Perl is growing and adapting to the modern times, just like a new shiny Plug-In Hybrid car. Plug-in hybrid cars have the best of both worlds, an electric motor that has an average range of 20-60 miles and after its range is depleted it goes on the good old reliable gas motor for a few hundred miles.

Perl has many new shiny tech ( think of this as the Electric motor side of the Plug-In Hybrid car ) like Dancer2, Mojolicious , Starman and now COR which is a new OO system that is part of the language ( and many other cool new cpan modules that I might have missed * feel free to share your favorite new cpan module in the comments)

Perl has done a good job at keeping backwards compatibility ( now think of this as the gas engine side of the plugin hybrid car ) where many companies can still reliably run its perl code ( even after upgrading perl and obviously a few tweaks in the codebase here and there )

The Perl community is still active and its cpan modules continue to be maintained. Yes we have experienced a shrinking in the Perl community but the community has maintained a focus on improving the core modules that are shipped in the language and has paid close attention to widely used cpan modules ( read up on cpan river model - https://neilb.org/2015/04/20/river-of-cpan.html )

If you used to write Perl code or your curious about it then this is the best time to give Perl 5.40 a try and play around with some of its new web frameworks, cpan libraries and its new OO system COR.

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Those who've been around long enough know that the use of programming languages was almost a religion a few years ago. For example, the .NET community made no secret of being a sect that branded other technologies as the devil's work. Admittedly, the Llama book was also considered a bible.

Until 20 years ago, Perl was regarded as an elite technology that one could boast about even barely mastering. Getting started with Perl was and still is tough and requires motivation. The reward for building Perl skills often comes years later when you calmly realize that even 10-year-old scripts still perform their duties perfectly - despite multiple system environment updates. Generally, even unoptimized Perl programs run more efficiently than new developments with technologies sold to us as the "hot shit."

One of Perl's top application areas is high-performance and robust web applications in mod_perl/2. To my knowledge, there's no comparable flexible programming language that can interact so closely with the web server and intervene in every layer of the delivery process. The language is mature, balanced, and the syntax is always consistent - at least for the Perl interpreter 😉 If you go to the official mod_perl page (perl.apache.org) in 2024, it recommends a manual written over 20 years ago, and even the link no longer works.

As a Perl enthusiast from the get-go and a full-stack developer, I feel today that - albeit reluctantly - I need to consider a technology switch. Currently, I'm still developing with mod_perl/2 and Perl Mason. As long as I'm working on interface projects, I'm always ahead of the game and can deliver everything in record time. However, when it comes to freelance projects or a new job, it's almost hopeless to bring in Perl experience, especially in Europe.

Throughout my career, I've also used other technologies such as Java Struts, PHP, C/C++, Visual Basic .NET, and I'd better not mention COBOL-85. I've always come back to Perl because of its stability. But I'm noticing that the language is effectively dead and hardly receives any updates or is talked about much. If I were forced to make a technology switch for developing full-stack applications, I would switch to React or Django. It's a shame.

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I have been a Perl guy for 30+ years and have had the great idea to upgrade the Perl version of my large Perl APP to 5.40; after a lot of fiddeling around and overriding some Makefile.PL files I got the code and all required libraries to work on an AlmaLinux 9.4. Hoewever I am stuck on getting it to run locally on MacOS 14.5.

The two libraries currently roadblocking are Net::SSL and DBD::MariaDB. I am not fluent enough in C to understand how and if I can get things sorted; anyone able to help? Full compile errors below.

Net::SSL

cpanm (App::cpanminus) 1.9018 on perl 5.040000 built for darwin-2level Work directory is /Users/administrator/.cpanm/work/1721974215.35063 You have make /usr/bin/make You have LWP: 6.77 You have /usr/bin/tar: bsdtar 3.5.3 - libarchive 3.5.3 zlib/1.2.12 liblzma/5.4.3 bz2lib/1.0.8 You have /usr/bin/unzip Searching Net::SSL () on cpanmetadb ... --> Working on Net::SSL Fetching http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/N/NA/NANIS/Crypt-SSLeay-0.72.tar.gz -> OK Unpacking Crypt-SSLeay-0.72.tar.gz Entering Crypt-SSLeay-0.72 Checking configure dependencies from META.json Checking if you have Getopt::Long 0 ... Yes (2.57) Checking if you have ExtUtils::CBuilder 0.280205 ... Yes (0.280240) Checking if you have Try::Tiny 0.19 ... Yes (0.31) Checking if you have Path::Class 0.26 ... Yes (0.37) Configuring Crypt-SSLeay-0.72 Running Makefile.PL Argument "pro" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm line 47. Found libraries 'ssl, crypto, z' *** THIS IS NOT AN ERROR, JUST A MESSAGE FOR YOUR INFORMATION *** Do you really need Crypt::SSLeay? Starting with version 6.02 of LWP, https support was unbundled into LWP::Protocol::https. This module specifies as one of its prerequisites IO::Socket::SSL which is automatically used by LWP::UserAgent unless this preference is overridden separately. IO::Socket::SSL is a more complete implementation, and, crucially, it allows hostname verification. Crypt::SSLeay does not support this. At this point, Crypt::SSLeay is maintained to support existing software that already depends on it. However, it is possible that your software does not really depend on Crypt::SSLeay, only on the ability of LWP::UserAgent class to communicate with sites over SSL/TLS. If are using version LWP 6.02 or later, and therefore have installed LWP::Protocol::https and its dependencies, and do not explicitly use Net::SSL before loading LWP::UserAgent, or override the default socket class, you are probably using IO::Socket::SSL and do not really need Crypt::SSLeay. Before installing Crypt::SSLeay, you may want to try specifying a dependency on LWP::Protocol::https. ================================================================================ Output from '/Users/administrator/.cpanm/work/1721974215.35063/Crypt-SSLeay-0.72/openssl-version': OpenSSL 3.3.1 4 Jun 2024 30300010 ================================================================================ Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Generating a Unix-style Makefile Writing Makefile for Crypt::SSLeay Writing MYMETA.yml and MYMETA.json -> OK Checking dependencies from MYMETA.json ... Checking if you have Try::Tiny 0.19 ... Yes (0.31) Checking if you have Test::More 0.19 ... Yes (1.302199) Checking if you have ExtUtils::MakeMaker 0 ... Yes (7.70) Checking if you have LWP::Protocol::https 6.02 ... Yes (6.14) Checking if you have MIME::Base64 0 ... Yes (3.16_01) Building and testing Crypt-SSLeay-0.72 cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Conn.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Conn.pm cp SSLeay.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay.pm cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Err.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Err.pm cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/MainContext.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/MainContext.pm cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Version.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/Version.pm cp lib/Net/SSL.pm blib/lib/Net/SSL.pm cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/CTX.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/CTX.pm cp lib/Crypt/SSLeay/X509.pm blib/lib/Crypt/SSLeay/X509.pm Running Mkbootstrap for SSLeay () chmod 644 "SSLeay.bs" "/usr/local/bin/perl" -MExtUtils::Command::MM -e 'cp_nonempty' -- SSLeay.bs blib/arch/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.bs 644 "/usr/local/bin/perl" "/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/xsubpp" -typemap '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/typemap' -typemap '/Users/administrator/.cpanm/work/1721974215.35063/Crypt-SSLeay-0.72/typemap' SSLeay.xs > SSLeay.xsc mv SSLeay.xsc SSLeay.c cc -c -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -mmacosx-version-min=14.5 -DNO_THREAD_SAFE_QUERYLOCALE -DNO_POSIX_2008_LOCALE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -Wno-error=implicit-function-declaration -O3 -DVERSION=\"0.72\" -DXS_VERSION=\"0.72\" "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE" SSLeay.c SSLeay.xs:152:31: warning: call to undeclared function 'SSLv3_client_method'; ISO C99 and later do not support implicit function declarations [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] ctx = SSL_CTX_new(SSLv3_client_method()); ^ SSLeay.xs:152:31: error: incompatible integer to pointer conversion passing 'int' to parameter of type 'const SSL_METHOD *' (aka 'const struct ssl_method_st *') [-Wint-conversion] ctx = SSL_CTX_new(SSLv3_client_method()); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/include/openssl/ssl.h:1634:47: note: passing argument to parameter 'meth' here __owur SSL_CTX *SSL_CTX_new(const SSL_METHOD *meth); ^ SSLeay.xs:157:31: warning: call to undeclared function 'SSLv2_client_method'; ISO C99 and later do not support implicit function declarations [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] ctx = SSL_CTX_new(SSLv2_client_method()); ^ SSLeay.xs:157:31: error: incompatible integer to pointer conversion passing 'int' to parameter of type 'const SSL_METHOD *' (aka 'const struct ssl_method_st *') [-Wint-conversion] ctx = SSL_CTX_new(SSLv2_client_method()); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/include/openssl/ssl.h:1634:47: note: passing argument to parameter 'meth' here __owur SSL_CTX *SSL_CTX_new(const SSL_METHOD *meth); ^ 2 warnings and 2 errors generated. make: *** [SSLeay.o] Error 1 -> FAIL Installing Net::SSL failed. See /Users/administrator/.cpanm/work/1721974215.35063/build.log for details. Retry with --force to force install it. 

cpanm (App::cpanminus) 1.9018 on perl 5.040000 built for darwin-2level Work directory is /Users/administrator/.cpanm/work/1721974660.39142 You have make /usr/bin/make You have LWP: 6.77 You have /usr/bin/tar: bsdtar 3.5.3 - libarchive 3.5.3 zlib/1.2.12 liblzma/5.4.3 bz2lib/1.0.8 You have /usr/bin/unzip Searching DBD::MariaDB () on cpanmetadb ... --> Working on DBD::MariaDB Fetching http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/P/PA/PALI/DBD-MariaDB-1.23.tar.gz -> OK Unpacking DBD-MariaDB-1.23.tar.gz Entering DBD-MariaDB-1.23 Checking configure dependencies from META.json Checking if you have utf8 0 ... Yes (1.25) Checking if you have DBI 1.608 ... Yes (1.643) Checking if you have strict 0 ... Yes (1.13) Checking if you have ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.58 ... Yes (7.70) Checking if you have Data::Dumper 0 ... Yes (2.189) Checking if you have Getopt::Long 0 ... Yes (2.57) Checking if you have Devel::CheckLib 1.12 ... Yes (1.16) Checking if you have File::Spec 0 ... Yes (3.90) Checking if you have Config 0 ... Yes (5.040000) Checking if you have warnings 0 ... Yes (1.70) Configuring DBD-MariaDB-1.23 Running Makefile.PL Argument "pro" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm line 47. PLEASE NOTE: For 'make test' to run properly, you must ensure that the database user 'root' can connect to your MariaDB or MySQL server and has the proper privileges that these tests require such as 'drop table', 'create table', 'drop procedure', 'create procedure' as well as others. mysql> grant all privileges on test.* to 'root'@'localhost' identified by 's3kr1t'; For MySQL 8 it is needed to use different syntax: mysql> create user 'root'@'localhost' identified by 's3kr1t'; mysql> grant all privileges on test.* to 'root'@'localhost'; You can also optionally set the user to run 'make test' with: perl Makefile.PL --testuser=username I will use the following settings for compiling and testing: cflags (mysql_config) = -I/usr/local/Cellar/mariadb/11.4.2/include/mysql -I/usr/local/Cellar/mariadb/11.4.2/include/mysql/mysql libs (mysql_config) = -L/usr/local/Cellar/mariadb/11.4.2/lib/ -lmariadb mysql_config (guessed ) = mariadb_config testauthplugin (default ) = testdb (default ) = test testhost (default ) = testpassword (default ) = testport (default ) = testsocket (default ) = testuser (guessed ) = root To change these settings, see 'perl Makefile.PL --help' and 'perldoc DBD::MariaDB::INSTALL'. Checking if libs and header files are available for compiling... Checking if correct version of MariaDB or MySQL client is present... Looks good. Embedded server: not supported by client library WARNING: Older versions of ExtUtils::MakeMaker may errantly install README.pod as part of this distribution. It is recommended to avoid using this path in CPAN modules. Client library deinitialize OpenSSL library functions: yes Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Using DBI 1.643 (for perl 5.040000 on darwin-2level) installed in /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/ Generating a Unix-style Makefile Writing Makefile for DBD::MariaDB Writing MYMETA.yml and MYMETA.json -> OK Checking dependencies from MYMETA.json ... Checking if you have Test::More 0.90 ... Yes (1.302199) Checking if you have bigint 0 ... Yes (0.67) Checking if you have lib 0 ... Yes (0.65) Checking if you have DynaLoader 0 ... Yes (1.56) Checking if you have Data::Dumper 0 ... Yes (2.189) Checking if you have ExtUtils::MakeMaker 0 ... Yes (7.70) Checking if you have warnings 0 ... Yes (1.70) Checking if you have DBI::Const::GetInfoType 0 ... Yes (2.008697) Checking if you have Encode 0 ... Yes (3.21) Checking if you have vars 0 ... Yes (1.05) Checking if you have constant 0 ... Yes (1.33) Checking if you have Time::HiRes 0 ... Yes (1.9777) Checking if you have B 0 ... Yes (1.89) Checking if you have Test::Deep 0 ... Yes (1.204) Checking if you have FindBin 0 ... Yes (1.54) Checking if you have DBI 1.608 ... Yes (1.643) Checking if you have File::Temp 0 ... Yes (0.2311) Checking if you have strict 0 ... Yes (1.13) Checking if you have utf8 0 ... Yes (1.25) Building and testing DBD-MariaDB-1.23 cp lib/DBD/MariaDB.pm blib/lib/DBD/MariaDB.pm cp lib/DBD/MariaDB.pod blib/lib/DBD/MariaDB.pod cp lib/DBD/MariaDB/INSTALL.pod blib/lib/DBD/MariaDB/INSTALL.pod cp README.pod blib/lib/DBD/MariaDB/README.pod Running Mkbootstrap for MariaDB () chmod 644 "MariaDB.bs" "/usr/local/bin/perl" -MExtUtils::Command::MM -e 'cp_nonempty' -- MariaDB.bs blib/arch/auto/DBD/MariaDB/MariaDB.bs 644 "/usr/local/bin/perl" -p -e "s/~DRIVER~/MariaDB/g" /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/Driver.xst > MariaDB.xsi "/usr/local/bin/perl" "/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/xsubpp" -typemap '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/ExtUtils/typemap' MariaDB.xs > MariaDB.xsc Warning: duplicate function definition 'do' detected in MariaDB.xs, line 104 Warning: duplicate function definition 'rows' detected in MariaDB.xs, line 231 Warning: duplicate function definition 'last_insert_id' detected in MariaDB.xs, line 250 mv MariaDB.xsc MariaDB.c cc -c -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI -I/usr/local/Cellar/mariadb/11.4.2/include/mysql -I/usr/local/Cellar/mariadb/11.4.2/include/mysql/mysql -DHAVE_DBI_1_634 -DHAVE_DBI_1_642 -DHAVE_PROBLEM_WITH_OPENSSL -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -mmacosx-version-min=14.5 -DNO_THREAD_SAFE_QUERYLOCALE -DNO_POSIX_2008_LOCALE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -Wno-error=implicit-function-declaration -O3 -DVERSION=\"1.23\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.23\" "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE" MariaDB.c In file included from MariaDB.c:186: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/Driver_xst.h:33:5: warning: '(' and '{' tokens introducing statement expression appear in different macro expansion contexts [-Wcompound-token-split-by-macro] EXTEND(SP, params); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/pp.h:460:25: note: expanded from macro 'EXTEND' # define EXTEND(p,n) STMT_START { \ ^~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/dbipport.h:4185:31: note: expanded from macro 'STMT_START' # define STMT_START (void)( /* gcc supports ``({ STATEMENTS; })'' */ ^ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/Driver_xst.h:33:5: note: '{' token is here EXTEND(SP, params); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/pp.h:460:36: note: expanded from macro 'EXTEND' # define EXTEND(p,n) STMT_START { \ ^ In file included from MariaDB.c:186: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/Driver_xst.h:33:5: warning: '}' and ')' tokens terminating statement expression appear in different macro expansion contexts [-Wcompound-token-split-by-macro] EXTEND(SP, params); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/pp.h:466:25: note: expanded from macro 'EXTEND' } STMT_END ^ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/Driver_xst.h:33:5: note: ')' token is here EXTEND(SP, params); ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/pp.h:466:27: note: expanded from macro 'EXTEND' } STMT_END ^~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/dbipport.h:4186:25: note: expanded from macro 'STMT_END' # define STMT_END ) ^ ^ ./MariaDB.xsi:214:39: warning: '(' and '{' tokens introducing statement expression appear in different macro expansion contexts [-Wcompound-token-split-by-macro] if (is_selectrow_array) { XSRETURN_EMPTY; } else { XSRETURN_UNDEF; } ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/XSUB.h:340:27: note: expanded from macro 'XSRETURN_EMPTY' #define XSRETURN_EMPTY STMT_START { XSRETURN(0); } STMT_END ^~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/dbipport.h:4185:31: note: expanded from macro 'STMT_START' # define STMT_START (void)( /* gcc supports ``({ STATEMENTS; })'' */ ^ ./MariaDB.xsi:214:39: note: '{' token is here if (is_selectrow_array) { XSRETURN_EMPTY; } else { XSRETURN_UNDEF; } ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/XSUB.h:340:38: note: expanded from macro 'XSRETURN_EMPTY' #define XSRETURN_EMPTY STMT_START { XSRETURN(0); } STMT_END ^ ./MariaDB.xsi:214:39: warning: '(' and '{' tokens introducing statement expression appear in different macro expansion contexts [-Wcompound-token-split-by-macro] if (is_selectrow_array) { XSRETURN_EMPTY; } else { XSRETURN_UNDEF; } ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/XSUB.h:340:57: note: expanded from macro 'XSRETURN_EMPTY' #define XSRETURN_EMPTY STMT_START { XSRETURN(0); } STMT_END ^~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/darwin-2level/CORE/XSUB.h:325:5: note: expanded from macro 'XSRETURN' STMT_START { \ ^~~~~~~~~~ /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.40.0/darwin-2level/auto/DBI/dbipport.h:4185:31: note: expanded from macro 'STMT_START' Failed 6/7 subtests Can't use an undefined value as a subroutine reference at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.40.0/TAP/Harness.pm line 612. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255