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@Perl Here’s a BRILLIANT cheatsheet by @shiar of significant changes to the #Perl #programming language, from 2000's version 5.6 to 2023's version 5.38: https://sheet.shiar.nl/perl

Apart from being a valuable reference, it's a compact argument against the belief that Perl has stagnated.

And yet your old Perl code still runs on today's versions. Don't be surprised. We value your time and ours.

https://toot.community/@shiar/111858636016600099

Shiar

2024-02-01 22:42:11


@mjgardner @jwz @pjakobs @jacobydave @Sdowney I keep a summary at https://sheet.shiar.nl/perl because even the highlights are so numerous.

perl version cheat sheet

sheet.shiar.nl
#perl #programming @Perl @Shiar
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Jeff KC1PYT
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Honestly, I think the thing that works against #Perl and #Raku the most is that they don't work natively in the browser or on mobile.

I love both languages and want to see them prosper.

#perl #raku

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#JavaScript kinda ate the browser. But #WebAssembly (a/k/a #Wasm) offers a way out: https://WebAssembly.org

And #Perl can run via #WebAssembly and #Emscripten in the browser: https://WebPerl.ZeRO-G.net

WebPerl

Run Perl in the browser with WebPerl!
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#perl #javascript #webassembly #wasm #emscripten
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Yes, *eventually* I expect just about everything to get ported to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hold up is there is no generalized mechanism to access the DOM from WASM, right?

So stuff has to run WASM, then spawn JS (expensive) and then make API calls to JS to interact with the DOM. Stop me if I'm wrong.

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@KC1PYT I don’t have any direct #Wasm experience so I can't confirm or deny without doing the same research as anyone else. Maybe somebody receiving these group messages can opine.
#wasm @Jeff KC1PYT

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Without reading the whole thread, yes, any calls from wasm to WebAPI have to go through the host environment (JS). It's not too slow in practice but could be much better considering that wasm is generally faster than JS.

Also, you'll need to provide a small JS bridge, like what Go has:
https://github.com/golang/go/blob/master/misc/wasm/wasm_exec.js

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That project seems semi-stale. There aren't any recent commits though there are decently recent comments in the few issues that are opened.

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@KC1PYT “Recent” is in the eye of the beholder. I haven’t personally used #WebPerl, but it appears to be based on a slight fork of #Perl v5.30 from 2019: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/compare/maint-5.30...haukex:emperl5:emperl_v5.30.0

As with anything, it needs someone with an itch to scratch and enough skills and tuits. The primary author is employed doing #Python now, so it's a fine time to pick it up unimpeded.

Comparing Perl:maint-5.30...haukex:emperl_v5.30.0 · Perl/perl5

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#perl #python #webperl @Jeff KC1PYT

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This is brilliant though and well formatted too.

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I am not a big fan of the language itself, but I deeply respect and admire the API stability and long-term vision. That is rare these days, and should be applauded.
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