@ChristosArgyrop Bad news, according to this “Make Use Of” #clickbait both #Rlang and #Perl are “heading for extinction” along with #VisualBasic (and #VBA), #Haskell, #Fortran, #COBOL, #ActionScript (the language in discontinued #AdobeFlash), and #Pascal: https://apple.news/A9sb4_KhEQoeIdeulO_zfgw
The text hedges the headline’s assertion for every entry above. And of course, it cites #TIOBE.
It’s also syndicated on #MSN, which has had, um, quality control problems lately: https://futurism.com/msn-ai-brandon-hunter-useless
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in reply to Mark Gardner • • •Christos Argyropoulos MD, PhD
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •There is a conscious attempt to get rid of #Rlang and the script is highly reminiscent of #perl. The push for #Python is kind of nuts given that the language is kinda slow and it shines only because of certain libraries written in #clang.
Going back to #perl, I will reiterate the same points I 've made in other fora: it needs a strong type system as an ad-on, a tabular data type that is more space efficient than an array of arrays to adapt to our #bigdata era.
Tim Locke
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •https://www.makeuseof.com/programming-languages-heading-for-extinction/
Mark Gardner
in reply to Tim Locke • • •The #AppleNews link opens a sanitized version of the article in the News app for those that have it. The source page on their site is littered with trackers from a dozen other parties, and if you try to browse with an #AdBlocker it covers the content unless your blocker has rules to counteract it.
But you do you. Fruit company bad.
Tim Locke
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •Mark Gardner
in reply to Tim Locke • • •So… you’d rather spread links to those who aren’t “behind seven proxies” (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/good-luck-im-behind-7-proxies) to pages with trackers from such paragons of #privacy as #Google, #Amazon, etc.?
I’ll take my chances with the fruit: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-news/
Good Luck, I'm Behind 7 Proxies
Tomberry (Know Your Meme)Mark Gardner
Unknown parent • • •Christos Argyropoulos MD, PhD
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in reply to Mark Gardner • • •vmagnin
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •#Fortran feels no hurry: it was in the TIOBE Index Top 20 for 9 months in 2021 (the year it went back), 5 months in 2022, and already 7 months in 2023. A total of 21 months on the last 33 months (start from January 2021):
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
The #Fortran-lang community is giving a new impulse:
https://fortran-lang.org/
And the Fortran 2023 standard should be published around October/November.
Well, Fortran is playing chess with Death for several decades now.
TIOBE Index - TIOBE
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in reply to Christos Argyropoulos MD, PhD • • •Mark Gardner
in reply to Reini Urban • • •@rurban PAR:😛acker’s `pp` command does the same thing, creating self-extracting standalone executables from #Perl scripts and their dependencies: https://metacpan.org/pod/pp
Years ago, I used it to build Windows executables of a script that used DBD:😮racle to check that the database server was installed and configured correctly. (`pp` can include required shared libraries, I.e., Windows DLL’s, Unix/Linux .so’s, or macOS .dylib’s)
pp
metacpan.orgChristos Argyropoulos MD, PhD
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •Isn't B::C sorta a way to compile perl through gcc?
Mark Gardner
in reply to Christos Argyropoulos MD, PhD • • •B::C
metacpan.orgChristos Argyropoulos MD, PhD
in reply to Mark Gardner • • •I run into the old convos at perlmonks
https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=987033
What most (at least me!) ppl expect out of this is the ability to use strong C types especially for containers, and avoid the double indirection of SV and possibly some of the issues mentioned here
https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=987198
Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler
www.perlmonks.orgMark Gardner
in reply to Christos Argyropoulos MD, PhD • • •@rurban If you want a restricted-functionality #Perl-like language with strong C++-backed typing, you can look at #RPerl by the always self-aggrandizing Will Braswell: http://rperl.org/learning/#CHAPTER_2%3A_SCALAR_VALUES_%26_VARIABLES_(NUMBERS_%26_TEXT)
As "dave_the_m" wrote on PerlMonks, it's “Perl but with every feature which makes Perl either useful or ‘Perlish’ removed”: https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11104379
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