Those who've been around long enough know that the use of programming languages was almost a religion a few years ago. For example, the .NET community made no secret of being a sect that branded other technologies as the devil's work. Admittedly, the Llama book was also considered a bible.

Until 20 years ago, Perl was regarded as an elite technology that one could boast about even barely mastering. Getting started with Perl was and still is tough and requires motivation. The reward for building Perl skills often comes years later when you calmly realize that even 10-year-old scripts still perform their duties perfectly - despite multiple system environment updates. Generally, even unoptimized Perl programs run more efficiently than new developments with technologies sold to us as the "hot shit."

One of Perl's top application areas is high-performance and robust web applications in mod_perl/2. To my knowledge, there's no comparable flexible programming language that can interact so closely with the web server and intervene in every layer of the delivery process. The language is mature, balanced, and the syntax is always consistent - at least for the Perl interpreter 😉 If you go to the official mod_perl page (perl.apache.org) in 2024, it recommends a manual written over 20 years ago, and even the link no longer works.

As a Perl enthusiast from the get-go and a full-stack developer, I feel today that - albeit reluctantly - I need to consider a technology switch. Currently, I'm still developing with mod_perl/2 and Perl Mason. As long as I'm working on interface projects, I'm always ahead of the game and can deliver everything in record time. However, when it comes to freelance projects or a new job, it's almost hopeless to bring in Perl experience, especially in Europe.

Throughout my career, I've also used other technologies such as Java Struts, PHP, C/C++, Visual Basic .NET, and I'd better not mention COBOL-85. I've always come back to Perl because of its stability. But I'm noticing that the language is effectively dead and hardly receives any updates or is talked about much. If I were forced to make a technology switch for developing full-stack applications, I would switch to React or Django. It's a shame.

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Today I learned... #1: variable scoping in if-else blocks

https://blogs.perl.org/users/karjala/2024/07/today-i-learned-1-variable-scoping-in-if-else-blocks.html

Caching & Memoization with state variables

https://blogs.perl.org/users/chrisarg/2024/07/caching-memoization-with-state-variables.html

You may have noticed the slow pace of Corinna development. As it turns out, there's an easy way to speed up the development: tell Paul.

I had a call with Paul "LeoNerd" Evans last night and this, including his email address, is being shared with his permission.

As you might imagine, being a core Perl developer, Paul has many things on his plate. Currently has has tons of PRs against the Perl core, he's doing new work such as experimenting with data checks (don't call them "types"!), and is active on the Perl steering council and in P5P. However, he's previously mentioned that he doesn't get much feedback on his work. For adding something as important as Corinna, just blindly adding it without hearing from the community is bad. Yes, we had a multi-year design phase and Corinna is much better for it, but that doesn't mean it's perfect and we don't want to screw this up.

So here's where you come in. Email Paul at leonerd at leonerd.org.uk. Tell him your thoughts about Corinna. He's he one implementing it and working in isolation as he is, despite his work with Object::Pad, isn't good. Tell him what you like, what you don't like, what you'd like to see next, what bugs you've encountered, and so on. Without hearing from you, he has no way of judging community thoughts/support for this project, so he needs your help.

If you'd like a quick refresher on the new syntax, I've written a short introduction. Here's a dead-simple LRU cache written in the new syntax:

use feature 'class'; class Cache::LRU { use Hash::Ordered; field $cache = Hash::Ordered->new; field $max_size :param :reader = 20; method set( $key, $value ) { $cache->unshift( $key, $value ); # new values in front if ( $cache->keys > $max_size ) { $cache->pop; } } method get($key) { return unless $cache->exists($key); my $value = $cache->get($key); $cache->unshift( $key, $value ); # put it at the front return $value; } } 

Pull requests · Perl/perl5

🐪 The Perl programming language. Contribute to Perl/perl5 development by creating an account on GitHub.

^GitHub

Squeezing more data from Linux

https://blogs.perl.org/users/alceu_rodrigues_de_freitas_junior/2024/07/squeezing-more-data-from-linux.html

Perl Weekly Challenge 276: Complete Day

https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2024/07/perl-weekly-challenge-276-complete-day.html

Blogpost about setting the #openmpl environment from within #perl

https://chrisarg.github.io/Killing-It-with-PERL/2024/07/01/Rudimentary-control-of-OpenMP-from-Perl.html

Other links:

1. Brett Estrade's presentation at TPRC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pzG5DerDT0

1. my companion entry at blogs.perl for https://blogs.perl.org/users/chrisarg/2024/07/parallel-perlc-applications-without-tears-using-openmp-controlling-the-openmp-environment.html

perl #openmp #parallelprogramming

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Intermediate OpenMP for Perl Programmers - Brett Estrade - TPRC 2024

#tprc2024 #perl #raku #openmp This is a sequel to my 2021 talk in Houston, “Introduction to OpenMP for Perl Programmers”. That talk covered the essential ele...

^YouTube

Parallel Perl/C applications without tears using OpenMP: Controlling the OpenMP environment

https://blogs.perl.org/users/chrisarg/2024/07/parallel-perlc-applications-without-tears-using-openmp-controlling-the-openmp-environment.html

My job has led me down the rabbit hole of doing some scripting work in Perl, mainly utility tools. The challenge being that these tools need to parse several thousand source files, and doing so would take quite some time.

I initially dabbled in doing very light stuff with a perl -e one-liner from within a shell script, which meant I could use xargs. However, as my parsing needs evolved on the Perl side of things, I ended up switching to an actual Perl file, which hindered my ability to do parallel processing as our VMs did not have the Perl interpreter built with threads support. In addition, installation of any non-builtin modules such as CPAN was not possible on my target system, so I had limited possibilities, some of which I would assume to be safer and/or less quirky than this.

So then I came up with a rather ugly solution which involved invoking xargs via backticks, which then called a perl one-liner (again) for doing the more computation-heavy parts, xargs splitting the array to process into argument batches for each mini-program to process. It looked like this thus far:

my $out = `echo "$str_in" | xargs -P $num_threads -n $chunk_size perl -e ' my \@args = \@ARGV; foreach my \$arg (\@args) { for my \$idx (1 .. 100000) { my \$var = \$idx; } print "\$arg\n"; } '`; 

• No editor syntax highlighting (in my case, VSCode), since the inline program is a string.
• All variables within the inline program had to be escaped so as not to be interpolated themselves, which hindered readability quite a bit.
• Every time you would want to use this technique in different parts of the code, you'd have to copy-paste the entire shell command together with the mini-program, even if that very logic was somewhere else in your code.

After some playing around, I've come to a nifty almost-metaprogramming solution, which isn't perfect still, but fits my needs decently well:

sub processing_fct { my u/args = u/ARGV; foreach my $arg (@args) { for my $idx (1 .. 100000) { my $var = $idx; } print "A very extraordinarily long string that contains $arg words and beyond\n"; } } sub parallel_invoke { use POSIX qw{ceil}; my $src_file = $0; my $fct_name = shift; my $input_arg_array = shift; my $n_threads = shift; my $str_in = join("\n", @{$input_arg_array}); my $chunk_size = ceil(@{$input_arg_array} / $n_threads); open(my $src_fh, "<", $src_file) or die("parallel_invoke(): Unable to open source file"); my $src_content = do { local $/; <$src_fh> }; my $fct_body = ($src_content =~ /sub\s+$fct_name\s*({((?:[^}{]*(?1)?)*+)})/m)[1] or die("Unable to find function $fct_name in source file"); return `echo '$str_in' | xargs -P $n_threads -n $chunk_size perl -e '$fct_body'`; } my $out = parallel_invoke("processing_fct", \@array, $num_threads); 

My limited benchmarking has found this to be as fast if not faster than the perl-with-threads equivalent, in addition to circumventing the performance penalty for the thread safety.

I'd be curious to hear of your opinion of such method, or if you've solved a similar issue differently.

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I need some help with the old Perl Gunnar Hjalmarsson's Ringlink program on my site. The forms work, the database gets added to and everything seems ready to go except for the email functions that depend on sendmail.

I have tried several things, installed the CPAN dependencies the program needs, tried Auron SendEmail and other programs and have thoroughly confused myself.

There's a test installation on my site, with the admin and password are both 'test'. There are copies of the CGI files and probably what needs looking at are rlmain.pm, rlconfig.pm and sender.pm

I am running Apache 2.4.54 on Windows 10 with Strawberry Perl installed. I am using the last published version Ringlink (v3.4)

I know this is an old program and the project probably not worth pursuing, but I really would like to give this a go to get it working and would be grateful for any suggestions.

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Auron SendEmail - Auron Software Portable E-mail Freeware

The Auron SendEmail set of portable freeware tools for Windows enable you to send E-mails through from either GUI or commandline.

^{Auron Software}

# Perl Weekly Challenge 275: Replace Digits

https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2024/06/-perl-weekly-challenge-275-replace-digits.html

The Once and Future Perl

Damian on top form as always. The modules this talk is based on are, of course, all both brilliant and incredibly useful. But the thing that's really impressed me here is the way he has taken some of his modules from a couple of decades ago and replaced them with calls to LLMs. That's food for thought.

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The Once and Future Perl - Damian Conway - TPRC 2024

#tprc24 #perl #rakuRetroemotions, statistical outliers, lunar excursions, Lorentz contraction, extrasolar planets, atomic clocks, lucky bullets, Greek mythol...

^YouTube

Justifying Embarrassing Errors.

https://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2024/06/justifying-embarrassing-errors.html

Annotation of my dist.ini

https://blogs.perl.org/users/nerdvana/2024/06/annotation-of-my-distini.html

PSA: to get Net::SSLeay to build on a new M3 MBP I had to do export OPENSSL_PREFIX=/opt/homebrew/opt/openssl/include/openssl/ to get it to build on a new M3 MBP with an OpenSSL that was installed via brew install openssl

Filed an issue at https://github.com/radiator-software/p5-net-ssleay/issues/482

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Build fails on new M3 MBP due to apparent change to OpenSSL include directory · Issue #482 · radiator-software/p5-net-ssleay

On a new M3 MBP to get Net::SSLeay to build I had to do export OPENSSL_PREFIX=/opt/homebrew/opt/openssl/include/openssl/ to get it to build with an OpenSSL that was installed via brew install opens...

^GitHub

As the conference is happening in Las Vegas right now, recordings of the talks are being posted to YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/@YAPCNA

Thanks to everyone planning, sponsoring, speaking and coding in the Perl space. I appreciate you all.

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The Perl and Raku Conference - Las Vegas, NV 2024

The official YouTube page of The Perl & Raku Conference, hosted by The Perl Foundation.

^YouTube

My site got exploited the other week. I had a backup of my WordPress domain, so after importing the backup, most of the infected files were gone. However, some files outside the public_html folder were infected. I deleted those files, and my website loads up fine. Just wondering, is there a way I can restore those files without having my hosting company reinstall Perl?

Thx in advance.

/home2/user1/perl5/lib/perl5/x/index.php: SL-PHP-FILEHACKER-fbo.UNOFFICIAL FOUND

/home2/user1/perl5/lib/x/index.php: SL-PHP-FILEHACKER-fbo.UNOFFICIAL FOUND

/home2/user1/perl5/bin/x/index.php: SL-PHP-FILEHACKER-fbo.UNOFFICIAL FOUND

/home2/user1/perl5/x/index.php: SL-PHP-FILEHACKER-fbo.UNOFFICIAL FOUND

-ABS

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Sorry I didn't get this out here earlier (and it's an xpost from Perlmonks), but Perl Community (parent org of the Science Perl Committee that is initiated the Science Track) is giving out a "peoples choice" award at the end of Conference Lightning Talks. It's sincere gesture from us and allows anyone to vote for anyone in the Perl community at large, as a "thank you" from us.

link to Google voting form

The Science Track talks have been great, some are even starting to come online. Thanks to everyone who made this happen, especially the TPRC Planning Committee.

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The 2024 Golden PERL Award

The Golden PERL Award AKA The People's Choice Award is sponsored by PerlCommunity.org and the Public Enrichment & Robotics Labs. Anyone is eligible to cast a vote and anyone in the global Perl community is eligible to receive a vote.

^{Google Docs}

What's new in Perl v5.40?

https://blogs.perl.org/users/mohammad_s_anwar/2024/06/whats-new-in-perl-v540.html

I’m a dev with 20yoe in mostly Java and js but have various amounts of experience with other languages. I’ve decided that I need Perl in my toolkit because I find it on even the most minimal boxes preinstalled and I can’t always install Java or Js just to do admin things. Typically I use bash for these tasks but I just need a little more ability to abstract than what bash easily provides. What would you all recommend as the place to start? Most guides that I run into assume that I’m a beginner to programming and it feels slow. My normal method of learning a new language is to stumble through building a web server but I’m not sure that the way to go here.

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I am working with the IP::Geolocation::MMDB module which replaces the deprecated modules for GeoIP databases.

I am having trouble understanding how to extract data.

my $ip = "8.8.8.8"; my $db = IP::Geolocation::MMDB->new(file => "$geolitecitydb"); my $geodata = $db->record_for_address($ip); print Dumper($geodata); 

Dumper...........$VAR1 = { 'continent' => { 'geoname_id' => 6255149, 'names' => { 'de' => 'Nordamerika', 'es' => "Norteam\x{e9}rica", 'zh-CN' => "\x{5317}\x{7f8e}\x{6d32}", 'ru' => "\x{421}\x{435}\x{432}\x{435}\x{440}\x{43d}\x{430}\x{44f} \x{410}\x{43c}\x{435}\x{440}\x{438}\x{43a}\x{430}", 'fr' => "Am\x{e9}rique du Nord", 'ja' => "\x{5317}\x{30a2}\x{30e1}\x{30ea}\x{30ab}", 'en' => 'North America', 'pt-BR' => "Am\x{e9}rica do Norte" }, 'code' => 'NA' 

Most examples I can find online involve looping through all of this; but in my case, I just want to make $somevar = 'North America.' I'd like to repeat it for other data as well, which is returned in this hash.

It feels like something like:

$geodata{city=>names=>en} should work, but it doesn't.

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I have been using version 5.22.1 for years, and it did what I needed to do. After all these years, I need some additional functionality, so I thought installing the latest might help.

Which is when I found that ActiveState has changed the installation process totally. Anyway, I went through the installation of the "recommended" version, and installation seemed to go fine.

I then ran the following simple code through both versions.

use HTTP::Tiny; my $url ='https://www.scrapingcourse.com/ecommerce/' ; my $response = HTTP::Tiny->new->get($url); print $response->{content}; 

IO::Socket::SSL 1.42 must be installed for https support
Net::SSLeay 1.49 must be installed for https support

When I use the old ppm command for Version 5.22.1, it gives me a list of 271 packages installed.

When I used the new "state" command: "state packages", it showed nothing.

So I used "state" to "install" IO-Socket-SSL, and Net-SSLeay, and now those are the only two that show up in the "state packages" list.

But it did not change functionality. The error messages are still there, and no execution.

It doesn't complain about HTTP::Tiny.

I tried installing Strawberry. But it had a problem with a more complex part of my original project, so I went back to ActiveState 5.22.1, which works fine.

Anybody got any ideas about what I need to do to get 5.36.3 actually working?

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This Week in PSC (152) | 2024-06-20

https://blogs.perl.org/users/psc/2024/06/this-week-in-psc-152-2024-06-20.html

Its been a long time since i've had to hack some code together so here just asking for advice as to where to start.

I have a group of printers (all have same web interface) on the corporate network. I would like to make a simple script that can login, and upload a config file (really its a list of users that have can scan documents, it doesn't matter what).

I've tried to google this with limited results, so wanted to reach out here to see if PERL would be the best answer for this.

I guess my question is, what modules should I look at to connect to a webpage in order to login then access a page behind the login and upload a file?

I looked into Mechanize but I do not believe it can handle javascript. Any advice or test scripts that do something similar would be greatly appreciated.

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Perl Weekly Challenge 274: Goat Latin

https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2024/06/perl-weekly-challenge-274-goat-latin.html

I’m currently having to modify a library that used Smart::Match extensively since I can no longer turn off the zillions of lines of experimental warnings in recent Perls. For people who are in a similar situation it’s looking like Data::Compare can replace the situations where I was doing ‘@foo ~~ @bar’, and it’s easy enough to write a “does this hash have this key” helper.

Meta complaint: I was already a bit annoyed at the whole smartmatch “oh whoops actually this is now experimental” saga but now that I’m stuck fixing this breakage I’m $annoyed++. Im getting annoyed enough that I may choose an older Perl that was “good enough” and just stop using the new ones

See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/perl/comments/pimwma/how_do_i_stop_smartmatch_is_experimental_at/

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Hello all I have a .pl CGI program that calls a module with lots of code I'll call it LotsOfCode.pm now I need to update a few subs in it and possibly add a dependency.

The pl file looks like this:

main.pl

use LotsOfCode;

Lotsofcode->cat();

LotsOfCode->dog();

Lotsofcode->fish();

Now I'd like this to say the same but I need to improve fish and cat. Say LotsOfCode.pm looks like this:

package LotsOfCode

sub fish {}

sub dog {}

sub cat {}

1;

I'd like to

mkdir ./LotsOfiCode

nano LotsOfCode/fish.pm move sub fish{} here

nano LotsOfCode/dog.pm move sub dog {} here

nano LotsOfCode/cat.pm move sub cat {} here

what do I put in the top of these new files in \LotsOfiCode ?

package LotsOfCode::fish;

or

package fish; ?

or

nothing is what I have so far just

sub fish {}

then in LotsOfCode.pm

do I go:

package LotsOfCode

use LotsOfiCode::fish

use LotsOfiCode::dog

use LotsOfiCode::cat

1;

or

do LotsOfCode::fish;

do LotsOfCode::cat;

do LotsOfCode::dog;

Thank you all in advance I get the more than one way to do it idea of Perl but feel like I keep fumbling with mixing old and new code.

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Filed under "Things that one can do, but why?" , here is the repo of using Perl to learn assembly, or rather use Perl to avoid

1. having a C driver program
2. make files
3. multiple files (Inline::ASM allows one to keep Perl and Assembly in the same file

Bonus :

1. it is insane how efficient some of the list utilities at List::Util are !
2. Seems Github uses file extensions to count lines of code in a language (the repo is considered all Perl

Link https://github.com/chrisarg/perlAssembly

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GitHub - chrisarg/perlAssembly: Examples of using Perl to augment NASM and vice versa

Examples of using Perl to augment NASM and vice versa - chrisarg/perlAssembly

^GitHub

Anybody wants to add a Perl implementation to this?

• https://antonz.org/uuidv7/
• https://github.com/nalgeon/uuidv7

(I'm currently on a train and have to change soon, but if nobody implements I might give it a try later)

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UUIDv7 in 20 languages

From JavaScript to Zig, no third-party dependencies.

^antonz.org

Neuigkeiten: OTOBO 11 Veröffentlicht

https://blogs.perl.org/users/otobo/2024/06/neuigkeiten-otobo-11-veroffentlicht.html

Making time to waste.

https://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2024/06/making-time-to-waste.html

Enhancing non-Perl bioinformatic applications with #Perl: Building novel, component based applications using Object Orientation, PDL, Alien, FFI, Inline and OpenMP - Archive ouverte HAL https://hal.science/hal-04606172v1

Preprint for the #TPRC2024 talk to be delivered in 10days

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This might be Perl/docker-perl#161 but if I filed this in the wrong place, let me know. Keeping these things current is the sort of thing I'd pay for.

Pulling perl images locally give the same warnings for old perl versions, although my local docker will still run them:

$ docker pull perl:5.14 5.14: Pulling from library/perl Image docker.io/library/perl:5.14 uses outdated schema1 manifest format. Please upgrade to a schema2 image for better future compatibility. More information at https://docs.docker.com/registry/spec/deprecated-schema-v1/ 

/usr/bin/docker pull perl:5.14 5.14: Pulling from library/perl [DEPRECATION NOTICE] Docker Image Format v1 and Docker Image manifest version 2, schema 1 support is disabled by default and will be removed in an upcoming release. Suggest the author of docker.io/library/perl:5.14 to upgrade the image to the OCI Format or Docker Image manifest v2, schema 2. More information at https://docs.docker.com/go/deprecated-image-specs/ Warning: Docker pull failed with exit code 1, back off 5.148 seconds before retry. /usr/bin/docker pull perl:5.14 5.14: Pulling from library/perl [DEPRECATION NOTICE] Docker Image Format v1 and Docker Image manifest version 2, schema 1 support is disabled by default and will be removed in an upcoming release. Suggest the author of docker.io/library/perl:5.14 to upgrade the image to the OCI Format or Docker Image manifest v2, schema 2. More information at https://docs.docker.com/go/deprecated-image-specs/ Warning: Docker pull failed with exit code 1, back off 4.06 seconds before retry. /usr/bin/docker pull perl:5.14 5.14: Pulling from library/perl [DEPRECATION NOTICE] Docker Image Format v1 and Docker Image manifest version 2, schema 1 support is disabled by default and will be removed in an upcoming release. Suggest the author of docker.io/library/perl:5.14 to upgrade the image to the OCI Format or Docker Image manifest v2, schema 2. More information at https://docs.docker.com/go/deprecated-image-specs/ Error: Docker pull failed with exit code 1 

 matrix: os: - ubuntu-22.04 perl-version: - '5.8' - '5.10' - '5.12' - '5.14' - '5.16' - '5.18' - '5.20' - '5.22' - '5.24' - '5.26' - '5.28' - '5.30' - '5.32' - '5.34' - '5.36' - 'latest' container: image: perl:${{ matrix.perl-version }} 

GitHub Actions says "upgrade the image to the OCI Format or Docker Image manifest v2, schema 2." · Issue #161 · Perl/docker-perl

Today I started seeing this, which means that all of my Perl testing is borked (thanks for the heads up GitHub). I think you are the source I'm pulling from, but if I'm not, do you know where I sho...

^GitHub

This week in PSC (151) | 2024-06-13

https://blogs.perl.org/users/psc/2024/06/this-week-in-psc-151-2024-06-13.html

I have an input string that has "comments" in it that are in the form of: everything after a ; is considered a comment. I want to remove all comments from the string and get the raw text out. This is a pretty simple regexp replace except for the fact that ; characters are valid non-comments inside of double quoted strings.

How can I improve the remove_comments() function to handle quoted strings with semi-colons in them correctly?

```perl use v5.36;

my $str = 'Raw data ; This is a full-line comment More data ; comment after it Some data "and a quoted string; this is NOT a comment"';

my $clean = remove_comments($str);

print "Before:\n$str\n\nAfter:\n$clean\n";

sub remove_comments { my $in = shift();

$in =~ s/;.*//g; # Remove everything after the ; to EOL return $in; 

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Hi,

im looking to put my website written in perl that currently runs locally inside apache out on the internet.

I dont want to host myself, and i dont have lots of spare time to config or money to spend for a vps.

Does anyone have experiences and can recommend a webhoster for maybe 10-15 bucks a month where i can just get a simple interface with ssh, where i can put an index.cgi somewhere(dont care if its in cgi-bin or public_html or something else,

i want something where i can just checkout my git repo thta contains index.cgi in its root and just works.

Thank you in advance!

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Thanks to a pile of new data added and old data cleaned up (most of that work done by Philippe Bruhat and Aristotle Pagaltzis) and some help from Copilot on the Javascript, there's a lot of new, interesting information on my Perl Steering Council web page - https://psc.perlhacks.com/

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Perl Weekly Challenge 273: B After A

https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2024/06/perl-weekly-challenge-273-b-after-a.html

Perl Weekly Challenge 273: Percentage of Character

https://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2024/06/perl-weekly-challenge-273-percentage-of-character.html